From the Vault: Tank Effectiveness: Conqueror, Conway and Charioteer

Fans of British early Cold War armor may find this item entertaining.  Sent to us by author and researcher P. M. Knight (see his excellent histories of WWII British armor here), this is an archival document from the British Army Operational Research Group.  The report is dated June of 1954.  The topic of the report is the combat effectiveness of the Conqueror, Conway and Charioteer tanks.  As might be guessed, this report is pretty theoretical since these vehicles never saw combat.  We take these sorts of reports with a grain of salt, especially when they come to the conclusion that the Charioteer has “an effectiveness of unity against this Russian tank (the IS-3)”.

The report is posted below as a series of pictures.  We have also posted the images as a PDF that can be downloaded here.

AFV News from Around the Web

It’s time for another installment of AFV news from around the web. As always, click in the headline to go to the full article.

Defense News – Turkey aims to select tank-maker in 2018

BO4557Q5SZAINKVG4IC57X2TUIANKARA, Turkey — Turkey’s military and procurement authorities have fine-tuned their multibillion-dollar competition for the production of an indigenous battle tank with a view to selecting a winner in mid-2018.  “A timetable has shaped up,” according to a procurement official familiar with the tank program. “The procurement/management side has been synchronized with the military requirement.”  The initial phase of the Altay tank program involves the serial production of a batch of 250 units. Military officials say the program would eventually reach 1,000 units. Industry sources say the final figure could reach billions of dollars.

Defense News – MSPO: South Korea’s Hanwha eyes Estonian K9 howitzer deal

5462F5BQD5AY7JHYU7BRFJTXVYKIELCE, Poland — South Korea is this year’s featured country of MSPO, Poland’s annual defense industry show, where defense giant Hanwha Corporation is pitching its flagship K9 self-propelled howitzer to Eastern European allies.  Jinhwan Jeong, the director of the overseas business division of Hanwha Land Systems, told Defense News that some of the major contracts under development in Eastern Europe include the planned howitzer procurement to Estonia.

Defense News – Indian Army shows interest in light tanks for defense along Chinese border

INFHSKYNOFDJFC4NBC2PY7HHUYNEW DELHI ― As preparation for a possible conflict with China in high, mountainous areas, the Indian Army’s armored directorate has begun setting requirements for a small tank order, according to a source in the Ministry of Defence.  Military planners in the MoD asked the Army to draw up requirements for a light tank after China tested its homegrown light tank, Xinqingtan, which is equipped with a 105mm main gun and a 1,000-horse-power engine.

Breaking Defense – Army Boosts Stryker Firepower, But Active Protection Lags

Screen-Shot-2016-10-27-at-1.13.56-PM-300x274ABERDEEN PROVING GROUND: The Army is rapidly upgunning its 8×8 Stryker vehicles to better deter the Russians in Eastern Europe, as we wrote yesterday. But soldiers are still figuring out how they’ll use the new vehicles. And the service as a whole is struggling to update the entire armored force, from the 20-ton Stryker to the 70-ton M1 Abrams, let alone develop all-new vehicles the way Senate Armed Services chairman John McCain would want.

Orlando Sentinel – Some cops hope to get tanks back with Trump’s order allowing military equipment

os-1504194467-2lbu5l0ttk-snap-imageCentral Florida law enforcement agencies applauded a White House decision that will once again allow them to acquire a range of surplus military equipment.  At least two local agencies are planning to take advantage of the overhaul and buy their tanks back after they were recalled in 2015 due to restrictions by former president Barack Obama that banned certain military-style equipment, including grenade launchers, bayonets and high-powered firearms.

Albawaba – Explained: How US Tanks Ended up with Iraqi Militias

afp_abramsSeveral years ago, the United States debated supplying Syrian rebels with high-tech armaments such as anti-tank and surface-to-air missiles. Critics contended that the weapons might fall into the hands of US-designated “terrorist organisations”.  But it is in Iraq, that the fear has become real: the US has armed American-killing Iranian proxies and terrorist groups with its best tank, the M1 Abrams.

The Australian – Spanish shipbuilder’s landing craft sank under Australian tanks

f426066bdfd0b1f729f572ff12980682A Spanish company vying for a $30 billion Navy ship building contract is using a Youtube video to imply its landing craft can carry Australia’s heavy tanks despite the boat sinking too low in water when the armoured vehicle was put on board.  Navantia, one of three contenders for Australia’s $30 billion Future Frigates contract, has a contract worth about $240 million to supply Australia with 12 landing craft supposedly capable of carrying the army’s 62 tonne M1A1 Abrams tanks.

KyivPost – Ukraine rolls out upgraded T-72 tank

t72amt_0004-800x520Designers at Kyiv Armored Plant presented on Aug. 20 a new, upgraded version of the Soviet-era T-72 main battle tank, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko reported on his page on Facebook.  The battle effectiveness of the tank has been improved with the help of lessons learned on the front in the east of Ukraine, the president’s post says.  Ukrainian defense industry concern UkrOboronProm said the new tank, called the T-72AMT, is based on the T-72A, which went into service with the Soviet army in 1979.

Jane’s IHS – Somali military receives new vehicles

1709097_-_mainThe Somali National Army (SNA) released photographs on 3 September showing new tactical vehicles it has received.  One photograph showed at least 12 Chinese-made Shaanxi Baoji Special Vehicles Company Tiger 4×4 light armoured vehicles parked in what appeared to be a secure compound in Somalia. A second showed at least 13 Ford Super Duty double cabin pick-up vehicles fitted with weapon mounts.

The Matilda Diaries Part 16

Part 16 of the Tank Museum’s Matilda Diaries video series documenting the restoration of their Matilda infantry tank.

Book Alert: Panther, Autopsy and Restoration

Amazon is showing a Sept. 2 release date for the new book Panther, Autopsy and Restoration: The Panther Restoration at the Saumur Tank Museum by Jose Duquesne.  Published by Histoire and Collections, this is a 128 page hardcover book.

Publisher’s Description:

The famous French Army tank museum at Saumur hosts the largest and richest collection of German Panzers in the World, and its new Panther is certainly one of the nicest examples of this steel predator. However, who could tell this particular tank is actually the same trophy that had withered for decades in front of the Hôtel des Invalides in Paris, near the banks of the Seine? Part of a pair of such tanks captured in running order by the famous French 2nd Armoured Division late in 1944 in Eastern France, after suffering outdoors for half a century, it has been brought back to its former splendor by a dedicated team from the French Army “Musée des Blindés.” This book tells the story of a famous machine and its metamorphosis from the lifeless shadow of its former self. The long and painstaking in depth restoration is depicted page after page, revealing a wealth of technical information about the innards of the beast. Indeed, amateur historians and modelers alike will discover this famous machine in many different and unique ways.

Video: Inside A British Mark IV WW1 Tank

The Great War youtube channel presents this video made in conjunction with the Tank Museum at Bovington on the British Mark IV World War I tank.  Museum curator David Willey provides a good description of these vehicles and how they were used.

Book Alert: Panzers East and West: The German 10th SS Panzer Division from the Eastern Front to Normandy

Those with an interest in WWII German Panzer units will be happy to know that a new book has been released from Stackpole on the history of the 10th Panzer Division.  Written by Dieter Stenger, Panzers East and West: The German 10th SS Panzer Division from the Eastern Front to Normandy is a 400 page hardcover volume.  According to the Stackpole website, Dieter Stenger is is a veteran of the U.S. Marine Corps and has worked in the museum field for two decades, including stints at the Marine Corps Air-Ground Museum, the U.S. Naval Academy Museum, the National Museum of the Marine Corps, and the U.S. Army Center of Military History, where he is senior arms curator.  We haven’t had a chance to look at this book so that’s all we can really say about it.

Publisher’s Description:

Organized and trained during 1943, the 10th SS Panzer Division saw its first action in the spring of 1944 during the attempt to relieve an encircled German army on the Eastern Front. Several months later, Hitler ordered the 10th SS west to Normandy, where by mid-June 1944 German defenses against the Allied offensive were crumbling. Here the division engaged in a series of armored attacks and counterattacks against British and American forces. The 10th SS briefly held off a few enemy thrusts but gradually had to fall back to Falaise, where the division escaped the Allied encirclement with no tanks and only a fraction of its men. The 10th SS Panzer Division next defended against the Allied parachute assault during Operation Market Garden in September 1944. Depleted and now a division in name only, the 10th SS fought in Alsace before Hitler sent it to the Eastern Front again. There, east of Berlin, the division participated in the final, futile battles against the Red Army before escaping to Czechoslovakia to surrender to the U.S. Army.

From the Vault: General Patton and the Sherman gun debate

One of the most enduring discussions regarding WWII armor revolves around the 75mm gun of the M4 Sherman tank.  Was it good enough?  Should the US Army had replaced it sooner with the 76mm gun?  While browsing through some old issues of ARMOR  magazine, we found this letter to the editor that we thought was worth sharing.  Written by Colonel George Eddy JR, son of Brigadier General George G. Eddy, he relates how his father got into an argument with General Patton over the 75mm gun issue.  This letter appeared in the March-April 1974 issue of ARMOR and it raises a few questions.  First, it must be acknowledged that this is second hand information.  Obviously, George Eddy Jr. was not a witness to this event.  As far as we know, there was not much “discontent” with the M4 after the combat experiences in North Africa.  We would be curious to know if there is any other record of this incident.  It’s worth pointing out that General George Eddy should not be confused with the more well known WWII XII Corps commander General Manton S. Eddy.

George Eddy letter